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Michelle
2 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2006 : 8:34:48 PM
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Hello all,
I am from Australia and have just joined your group. I was hoping someone would have a script on Past Life Regression. I have a few but was hoping for something a little different and have a client tomorrow, with no time to sit and write one unfortunately.
Your help would be much appreciated......Michelle.....
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Krispy
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2006 : 11:39:57 PM
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Michelle,
I have a script I have developed although I have not used it yet. I was tentatively going to use it for a regression to help a client with a phobia she has, however I have decided against it. (I have not done or observed regression as of yet and I decided that until I have that opportunity I should use other methods in case of abreaction) The script itself uses strong aspects of the "Fast Phobia Cure" as well as aspects of several other different regression techniques to achieve what should be a safe journey. This should work for you. (I will alter this to move away from the phobia aspect) I do this by (as used in FPC) placing the subject deep in a somnambulistic trance. Once there take the subject into a movie theatre. (Be very descriptive, the more vivid your description, {sight, sounds, smell, etc} the more fulfilling the journey) Let them experience going to the movie. Continue into the theatre. Once inside have them sit somewhere farther back from the screen. (This gives them an additional sense of distance from the "action". At this point deepen the subject if you need to.) Once subject is sufficiently under, the movie begins. My subject begins by watching a slightly out of focus, black and white movie. As it comes into focus the suject should see a sleeping form who they will come to realize is them. They "realize" they are dreaming. (from their REM rapid-eye-movement) Camera closes on face and this takes subject "inside" of their dream. The purpose of the black & white film and for watching a movie of themselves gives them an addional layer of space. You have established that they are safe, just obesrving for now.
The dream is in vivid color. My subject is standing on a beautiful beach. (I go into great detail about all aspect of this tropical paradise, spare no expense. Sell the visual details. You are building on where they will take you. Let them know that this is a rich and lively place. This is the "jumping off point" for their journey, feed their mind.
Here is that particular passage from my script so you can get the idea:
Your dream is in color, gentle hues flooding back in. You are standing on a beach. The warm tropical sun is so soothing to your skin. Gentle trade winds blow in off the water pushing strands of hair along your cheek, and you can hear the sounds of seagulls calling as they play in the gently rolling surf. You are standing on the beach of your existance. As you stare out at the ocean, you instinctively know that it is the water of life and it contains the ebb and flow of all that is, . . . all that has been . . . and even all that will be in your life. And these waters of life, the waters of YOUR life continually flow onto the beach, mingling with the sand. These are the sands of time and by traveling along these sands you have the ability to visit or revisit moments of your history, moments that have past AND moments and possibilities that have yet to come.
I have 3-4 paragraphs that describe the beach like this in great detail. Down the beach to the left sits a door. I explain that this is normal here. Hangiing on a post to the side of the door is a gold key. This door is the door to their possible future. I explain that this is somewhere we can explore another time and have them turn to the right. There is another identical door here. Hanging on a post next to it is a silver key. (I made the keys different colors to let them know that there are two distinct differences in these doors and where they lead.) We go to the door to the right (the past) I have her take the key. I describe it as warm and almost vibrating. I explain that this is "her" key and no one else can use it. No one else can even touch it and as long as she is behind this door, it will never leave her. All she need do to find her way back to the door at any time is reach in her pocket and touch her key and she will be brought back to the dooor. I have her open the door. Behind it is a thick grey mist. (The mists of time) Before we step through I assure her that I am with her, she is safe and I will guide her along her way. Step through. Spend a few moments decribing the mist and let subject get comfortable with surroundings. (Should be like standing in a thick fog - Faint shaddows, distant familiar yet unrecognisable sounds.) Then we begin. Tell your subject to think of a time in there life when they were happy, very happy. Tell them to let the memory come to them, not to try too hard. The right memory is out there and it is looking for them. It will find them. (Give subject a few minutes-15-60 sec) Once they have the memory the mist starts moving around them, slowly and then faster. Mist will soon stop. When it does sounds (sounds of "that" moment are more audible. as they become clearer the mists roll back and subject is "in" that moment. Living that moment.
NEVER tell subject anything. ALWAYS ask, lead subject with questions like. Where are you? What time is it? Is there anyone with you? What is happening? The more specific your question, the more reality the person will relive.
You can repeat this for various emotions or landmark moments in ther life. Do 2-3 of these and then begin past life.
Here is how I would do ot: 3 regressions maybe happiness-excitement-security You can visit a moment of great excitement in your life, perhaps that first sweet kiss. You can live that moment again, the butterflies, the thrill. Perhaps you could visit a time of innocence long forgotten. A young time when you had no cares of the world and all you were was daddy’s little girl. Or, go even farther back. You, if you wanted to, could go back to your own birth, for the human soul is timeless. Go back and know the feeling of being held in perfect love by your mother for the very first time.
And beyond that. . . it is possible. . . . After all, the soul is timeless.
When you go beyond birth have the mist roll back in and then roll out again. As it rolls out the subject could be standing in a large cavernous room filled with mirrors. Each of these mirrors represents a previous life. They can watch that life frome here or by touching the mirror the can experience it.
Run with it. Have fun. If you have an abreation, remember, they are sitting watching a movie. Just take them back to their seat in the theatre, the movie stopped in mid frame and the lights up. Then finnish dealing with it and bring them up.
Hope this helps some.
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mark-gil
United Kingdom
445 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2006 : 12:13:20 AM
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quote: I was hoping someone would have a script on Past Life Regression.I have a client tomorrow, with no time to sit and write one unfortunately.
You say you have no time. WRONG! You have the same amount of time as everyone else on the planet--24 hours each day. Maybe you can't find time. Wrong again! Time never gets lost. What I hear you saying is, "I will not set a priority to USE a specific period of time in service to the client. I refuse to prepare in advance--I will ask for a script on the Forum and if I don't get one, I'll just fake it and pocket the fee." My personal opinion is that this is unethical and unprofessional.
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Gil Boyne www.gil-boyne.com [Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]
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anthony
Canada
305 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2006 : 02:09:47 AM
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Well Gil, I would suggest it's a lack of skill rather than time, since any practitioner of skill could formulate their own on the spot will interviewing the client. I always based everything on what the client told me, so formulating a script was no problem for me. The client basically told me what was needed, so no two scripts were the same. Not that I did "past life regression", but no difference to me, it is still regression..... |
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mark-gil
United Kingdom
445 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2006 : 12:41:35 PM
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Hello Anthony, You are "spot on" in your description of creative programming based on the client's revelations. The need to cry out for help from any unknown person indicates a neophyte with little or no training either from a Hypnotherapy Institute or from experience. Heaven help the unspecting client of this so-called therapist.
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Gil Boyne www.gil-boyne.com [Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]
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Ray
2 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2006 : 5:20:37 PM
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I'm knew to this list. Gil and Anthony's response really threw me for a loop. Is this always the response people get when they ask for help!? If it is you can take me off this list!
Ray |
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mark-gil
United Kingdom
445 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2006 : 6:49:31 PM
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Ray, Would you prefer that hypnotherapists of long experience would endorse or approve (or remain silent)about all schemes presented by obviously untrained hypnotherapists? This is a forum for the expression of opinion within broad boundaries. Anthony and I have posted more than 500 messages to this website, most of them positive and helpful. We take great pride in our years of service in this profession. We call ourselves hypnotherapists and we take the risk of speaking out against those who seem to be unknowing or incompetent, yet they call themselves hypnotherapists. I estimate that 90% of those who post here are either newbies, curious, using hypnosis as a hobby for amusement or seeking help with their own problems.The other 10% have an obligation to speak out when it seems the right thing to do. This has been my full time livelihood for 51 years and now that we are we gaining respect and new understanding from the general public and from other professional groups I cannot let uninformed information distort the image we have worked so long to achieve. It is a shame that you are so sensitive (fragile?) that critical words directed toward another upset you. Perhaps you do not like the style of some posts, but that's the way it is. Examine your own fear of criticism, and start getting over it. |
Gil Boyne www.gil-boyne.com [Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]
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Edited by - mark-gil on 05/18/2006 6:56:53 PM |
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anthony
Canada
305 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2006 : 8:25:53 PM
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Bye Ray, and a word of advice, don't bother visiting the OTHER board, they are just as nasty to those who lie in their posts, even the monitors who used to be so kind and considerate to newbies are getting pissed off, and snapping off the heads of those who waste time. They finally are recognising that we who know our stuff are being abused by idiots, and while at one time the word idiot was objected to, it is no longer so, we have too many who fit the role.. Now, another word of advice, I as it happens fought for my right to free speech, what did you do to have the right to control it? |
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HypnoDoc
USA
369 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2006 : 01:10:19 AM
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"We learn through experience and experiencing, and no one teaches anyone anything. This is as true for the infant moving from kicking to crawling to walking as it is for the scientist with his equations. If the environment permits it, anyone can learn whatever he chooses to learn; and if the individual permits it, the environment will teach him everything it has to teach." - Viola Spolin |
HypnoDoc
"Relax, Listen and ______ with Hypnosis" Audio Series. (MP3 Instant Download, CD, and Cassettes) 250 Scripts for Hypnosis Professionals (All the scripts you may ever need for your practice)
quote: "Words are the most powerful drug used by mankind." Rudyard Kipling.
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Ray
2 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2006 : 06:39:56 AM
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Gil and Anthony - How can you tell me that someone asking for a patter script on past life regression is "obviously untrained"? Did they deserve what you two dished out? No. They were asking for help and both of you stomped on them. Maybe I am a little sensitive (fragile?)to that type of thing, as you suggest. I think the world would be a better place if more people spoke out when they see that type of thing. Anthony, I've seen your type on listserves before. If you are going to rip me for something I didn't do or intend to do, please try to be civil about it.
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mark-gil
United Kingdom
445 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2006 : 11:03:24 AM
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Ray, Ask any licensed mental health worker if they use past life regression as a therapy tool. Ninety eight per cent will laugh in your face. HypnoDoc--- Are we to interpret the quote you posted to mean that anything and everything can be learned through experience only. If so, I strongly disagree! If it were true we could dispense with all schools, colleges, universities, teachers, mentors and coaches. Please expand upon the theme. |
Gil Boyne www.gil-boyne.com [Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]
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anthony
Canada
305 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2006 : 2:23:53 PM
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Ray, your perception of me is yours, and I grant you that right, just as I claim the right to perceive you as I do. That after all, is the right of every free person. What I do have a problem with is your attitude that Gil and I have limited rights on this board, such being that we must only post what leaves you comfortable and happy. I find this rather strange considering that you have never contributed here, and paid nothing to join, so from whence comes this right or power? I confess, I had assumed from your first post, that you would not be visiting here any more, so we would have no need to communicate again. Since this is not so, and since you wish to continue to post, may I suggest that we can both be happy in that you will not read my posts, and I will not read yours. Is that fair? See, I will grant you all the rights you are honestly entitled to, but not those to which you have no claim, so it is up to you, I have no problem since I don't visit to gain information, but to offer it. You I imagine are here to get, and my suggestion will hamper you, since you will be forced to ignore posts from the persons most likely to have the information you need, but sadly, that is the price of equal rights.. Gil and I are capable of helping those who are honest, and those who help themselves, but we are not willing to let our beloved art be impuned by those making claims they have no right to, ie that they are skilled enough to work with the public, wnen in fact they are not. When joining a board such as this, expect to find liers and cheats, there are always those who promote themselves beyond their real skills, and we are very good at spotting them. Yes we can be wrong, but rarely are, because we know what a skilled practitioner should know before imposing themselves on the public. You do not as you so amply demonstrate, so quite frankly, you are out of your depth when it comes to deciding who should reply, and what should be said. |
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Krispy
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2006 : 3:35:53 PM
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I am what you (Anthony-Gil) would consider a newbie. I am entirely self taught and all of my "experience" is through reading and sessions I conduct with people who are completely aware of my skill level. Each and every session I perform is (at this time) done, first and foremost with the comfort and safety of my subject in mind. I DO NOT have the benefit of 50+ years experience and I can not claim the honor of a multitude of letters behind my name, but I can tell you that I am good at what I do. (Albeit, I have not dealt with anything more than issues such as bad habits, unsubstantiated fears and personal improvement) This is a decision I made for myself, simply because I do feel that to deal with the "potential" issues that "can" crop up while conducting sessions with more serious subject material, a responsible hypnotherapy practitioner should have some background training - even if this is an associates in psychology at your local community college. At this time I do not have this, (the reason for which I will not state here) and that is why "I" do not practice certain therapies.
That said:
There are times when I need help. (As evident in one of my earlier posts "Phobias/Fears") I am appreciative for all of your input, and in the end it did help me make a decision on my course of action. However, just because a person asks for help, does NOT mean they are incompetent. I will be the first to tell you that I do NOT know everything, and compare to many of you out there with all the experience you have I probably know "less than anything", but my success rate tells me that I am doing something right. Even with all of your "years" I still put forth that you can learn something new every day.
All I'm trying to infer here is that when a person asks for help (especially in this profession) it is better to give them a courteous (even if short) answer as opposed to a harsh criticism. (Unless it is obviously deserved)
I think Michelle is much newer at this than she wants to admit. In my (humble) opinion I believe that this may be her first attempt at regression (and maybe hypnosis). If this is so, she was seeking out "quality" help/information and I think (if this is the case) she should be given kudos for that. If I am right, perhaps she did not know where to begin, hence why she came here. Her subject may have been interested in this and she (possibly with short notice) was seeking a way to fulfill her obligation. Now, if this is the case I do not think she should be doing regression if only because there is the chance of abreaction. This is the main reason I have not used regression therapy in my sessions. In any event, I DO think she should have allowed herself more time to prepare. A little research and creativity would give her all she needed. I don't know that I am right, but that is the feel I got when reading her post. I do not know what her skill level is. I must assume that, despite my suspicions, she is skilled enough to perform this type of session and deal with any situation that may arise.
I would ask you to remember back when you started. How did it feel to you to be doing something new, and how would you have felt if someone had torn into you like that? One of the major hurdles a new hypnotherapist has to overcome is own self doubt. "Can I do this", "Can I help this person", "How should I phrase this", "What method should I use". A multitude of unanswered questions, simply because this person has not "gained" the experience that will come with time.
I know I risk ridicule form both of you, but as you said. . . This is a forum for the free expression of ideas. . . and. . . I can take it.
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mark-gil
United Kingdom
445 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2006 : 5:49:46 PM
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Hello Krispy, I have no desire or need to ridicule you. I am the Executive Director of the American Council of Hypnotist Examiners, a non-profit professional organization that sets standards for training in and practice of hypnotherapy. Formed in 1980, we now have more than 11,000 certified members in 39 countries. In addition, we approve Hypnotherapy training Institutes that met the established training standards for certification. Currently, we have approved 42 schools in America and abroad including three in China. For school approval we require a minimum of 300 classroom hours in a school approved by the state Board of Education with a teacher/trainer approvesd by ACHE AND THE STATE. I stand opposed to anyone practicing hypnotherapy whose information came only from books and similar sources, since they freely disseminate their questions to the wind and accept virtually any response they generate. Books are supplememts to live training. For more than thirty years, I stood in front of students and lectured, demonstated with students, supervised their practice, showed live therapy films, answered thousands of questions and led discussions. In addition. students purchased and studied numerous books as well. You link my name with Anthony's name as if we were one. I have never met or talked with Anthony--I know from his posts that he is knowledgeable and has many years of experience. I often agree with his posts but not always and vice versa. He is his man and I am mine. When you wish to respond to my words, use my name only and I can respond in kind. Finally, only about 5% of the readers of this forum ever post to it. The information diseminated here is read by thousnds who draw conclusions from it. I feel a responsibility to speak my views whenever I deem it necessary. |
Gil Boyne www.gil-boyne.com [Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]
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anthony
Canada
305 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2006 : 10:23:56 PM
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No Krispy, you are NOT a newbie, you are much worse. A newbie knows little and admits it. You have chosen to read enough to be dangerous, and then set up in practise. I will not berate you, I think you a fool, but what you do is your business except when you come here asking for advice that you should already have before entering into practise. Can I suggest that if you found out that the local doctor was self taught, you would have a problem with it, and attempt to find someone else? Would you let him perform an operation on you? If not, why not? The books he read are very good books, used by student doctors during their days as University. Hell man, he has the same knowledge, gained from the same source. How about your local dentist, after all I can and have removed teeth via hypnosis you know. Would you feel comfortable with me removing your teeth? No pain I assure you. I won't guarantee that the new tooth will grow in straight, since I am not a trained dentist.... See, if your perception of hypnosis is scewed, and your perception of Gil and I, the highly trained ones is so low, why should we feel OK about passing on information that might make you even more dangerous... If you are happy with trading information with the others just like you, so be it, but Gil and I will not be involved because we know better... |
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John
1 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2006 : 12:07:59 AM
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Hello Gil,
I read in your post that there are 3 schools in China. Would you mind giving me more details please? I'm from Canada and I'm in China at the moment, and will be here for a while. I'd be interested in having training.
Thank you, John |
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HypnoDoc
USA
369 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2006 : 12:06:35 AM
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John,
You may want to email Gil direct for that information. Click on his name in any of the posts, that will take you to his profile and then hit the email link. |
HypnoDoc
"Relax, Listen and ______ with Hypnosis" Audio Series. (MP3 Instant Download, CD, and Cassettes) 250 Scripts for Hypnosis Professionals (All the scripts you may ever need for your practice)
quote: "Words are the most powerful drug used by mankind." Rudyard Kipling.
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HypnoDoc
USA
369 Posts |
Posted - 10/30/2006 : 12:57:57 AM
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"Learning by experience is much more educational than learning consciously... Learning experientially is the most important thing."
Milton H. Erickson, M.D.
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HypnoDoc
"Relax, Listen and ______ with Hypnosis" Audio Series. (MP3 Instant Download, CD, and Cassettes) 250 Scripts for Hypnosis Professionals (All the scripts you may ever need for your practice)
quote: "Words are the most powerful drug used by mankind." Rudyard Kipling.
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scotcausesdeepsleep
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Posted - 06/19/2008 : 03:12:09 AM
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Michelle, I know this is a bit after the fact but, I had some trouble getting signed up.
I think this should be used directly after a basic induction I hope this helps! Namaste' Scot ================================= Regression Script
Release the weight of your body into the support of the floor/bed.
Notice how your back makes contact with the support of the floor/bed.
Relax the back of your legs....the back of your hips....your lower back, middle back, and upper back.
Feel the weight and relaxation of the back of your body sinking through the floor/bed. Relax the back of your shoulders / the back of your arms / the back of your neck / and the back of your head.
Wiggle and make any adjustments needed to relax the back of your body into the ground more fully. Melt into the support of the floor/bed completely.
Now, notice the weight of your body.
Notice the weight of your legs, as they rest on the floor. Let your legs be heavy. Let your thighs, feet and toes relax. Release, relax, let go of them completely. Let your legs drift and float and now forget about them.
Notice the weight of your hips and pelvis, as they rest on the floor/bed. Let the weight of your pelvis sink into the floor/bed.
Notice the weight of your rib cage. Let the back ribs melt into the floor/bed. Feel your abdomen expand with each inhalation. As you exhale, let the belly fully contract. Like a giant balloon inflating and completely deflating. Relaxing deeper with each deep breath.
Notice the weight of your shoulders and arms, as they rest on the floor/bed. Let your arms be so heavy that they sink through the floor/bed. Then release them completely. Let go. Let them drift and float away and then forget about them.
Notice the weight of your head, as it rests on the floor/bed. Let the head be heavy. Feel your neck and throat release and relax.
Relax the muscles of your face / relax your eyes and eyelids / your cheeks melt into relaxation / release, relax, let go of your jaw / your forehead and eyebrows smooth and relaxed / feel your scalp melt into relaxation. Your whole head and face totally relaxed, released.
Become aware of your breathing. Notice each inhalation relaxing the front of your body, and each exhalation relaxing the whole back of your body. Breathing slow, deep and then let it go.
Breathing the body deeper and deeper into relaxation as you drift and float in peace.
Close your eyes if not already closed.
Imagine and Picture you are at the top of a staircase
There are 10 safe steps down to deep relaxation
Counting backwards (either aloud or in your mind) from 10 as you go down each stair
Breathe through your nose filling the abdomen and exhale completely through your mouth as you go down each stair
Feeling safe and secure starting down the stairs now. / 10
Going down and breathing down. Down another stair now / 9
Release, (slight pause) relax, (slight pause) let go /8
Feeling more and more relaxed and peaceful as I go down each stair / 7
Down, (slight pause) down, (slight pause) down / 6
Every muscle, cell and atom of my body melts into relaxation / 5
I am so comfortable, so relaxed I am no longer aware of having this body. / 4
Going down and breathing deeper down / 3
Breathing deep and relaxing deeper / 2
Down, (slight pause) down, (slight pause) down / 1
I am at the bottom of the stairs Releasing, (slight pause) Relaxing, (slight pause) Letting go
I turn around, look at the staircase and it fades, melts disappears. It is gone and I feel confident and secure
Look around imagine, picture a path.
Notice what the path is made of and follow it.
Notice what is around your path. Grass, flowers, sand, trees, birds, animals, mountains, water etc. (If you are not visually gifted, imagine what you like to see.)
Engage all your senses. What do you smell? What textures are around you? Do you feel sunlight, a breeze? Are there sounds?
You are totally safe and protected as you follow this path. Stroll around looking around for awhile.
Eventually you notice a gate.
When you are in front of the gate look up in the sky, you notice your name written in the sky in clouds. As you watch, the clouds dissolve as clouds do. The sky is clear and your name is gone. You feel comfortable with this.
Reach for the door of the gate, open it and pass through to a past life experience.
(You can take whatever life pops in or ask for a specific life. For instance say and know I now pass into the life where I learn about ______________________)
(Whatever comes to mind, accept and go with the flow as if its an imagination game. There will be clues that assure you of the value of what you get.)
Look at your feet. What types of covering, if anything, are on your feet? Gradually move your awareness up your body noticing what clothing you have on.
Look around you, what are surroundings like? (Remember just go with your first impression. If things are vague, move over for a closer look.)
If you havent yet noticed anyone else there, look around for other people. (In some cases it is possible that you are the only one there.) Notice what other people are wearing and doing. If you want to, approach the others and ask questions. (Nothing there can bother you now and clues there can help with issues in the present. If you dont like what is around you ask for the lesson in it to go to another scene.)
Ask yourself things youd like to know. Such as what is my name, what year is it, what is this location called.
Tell your mind to show you the happiest time you experienced in that lifetime. Personally I prefer to skip the death but you can ask for that scene. You can ask to go to the space in between lives.
I like to end by asking for the most important lesson learned in that lifetime. The answer is usually a word or phrase rather than a particular scene as it sums up the entire life.
When finished you can just open your eyes or you can return to the gate you entered lifetime and go back through.
(Thirty minutes is long enough to spend on this script. Make notes as soon as possible.)
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Meoow
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Posted - 11/14/2008 : 5:46:12 PM
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Krispy, I am with you. I respect your helping manner and I appreciate your point of view. Newbies make mistakes and always need help. But what they need is encouragement and guidiance, not offensive comments. Main point: newbies make mistakes, we've all been one. Has someone forgotten one of the most important factors to be a good hypnotherapist is one's passion in helping others? Or is it really that sometimes experiences do make things worse in some ways? |
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melindarose1982
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Posted - 01/26/2009 : 03:24:24 AM
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quote: Originally posted by mark-gil
(quote)I was hoping someone would have a script on Past Life Regression.I have a client tomorrow, with no time to sit and write one unfortunately.(end quote)
You say you have no time. WRONG! You have the same amount of time as everyone else on the planet--24 hours each day. Maybe you can't find time. Wrong again! Time never gets lost. What I hear you saying is, "I will not set a priority to USE a specific period of time in service to the client. I refuse to prepare in advance--I will ask for a script on the Forum and if I don't get one, I'll just fake it and pocket the fee." My personal opinion is that this is unethical and unprofessional.
I think you are to harsh. You do not know there personal life and they might be caught in a tight spot with family stuff. The point of forums is to discuss and share what works for you and hope to learn from others. I can't stand people with your negative attiude and I think that is not professional. |
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Ladyjo
United Kingdom
3 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2009 : 1:06:17 PM
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Whoa!!! Well I am a learning newbie at the moment, studying with a top Hypnotherapist in Newcastle England, and have come across this site by accident, and find it harsh!! I mean to say Im not in practise yet, Im waiting to qualify and be on the register, but the script for PLR was very informative for me, I have not done PLR yet, but hoping to do so the next few weeks. I hope I do not get the reaction if I ask questions?? maybe some should try self hypnosis for Anger lol!!! Sorry couldnt resist that!! but as a newbie learning, all information I recieve is my learning curve, along with all my friends and family who act as my guinea pigs, this is done under supervision of course, so please dont berate me if I ask a stupid question, or should I keep that for my trainer??
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Matrixman
United Kingdom
399 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2009 : 2:00:12 PM
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Hi Ladyjo
Welcome to the site an I am sorry if some of the message come over a little harsh- and you are right at times, our members can be a little blunt, not to worry thou, 98% of the replies are typically well received with the odd small percent that get a little well less encouraging-
While your doing your training, it is best it first approach your trainer, as that way he or she can tie your questions into the training, and this will keep you focused, and within the scope and framework of the training your doing, once you have completed your training your trainer should encourage your to seek and learn with many different other hypnotherapy schools, over time.
Yet if your really curious- then ask away- and hopeful you will get a few nice replies, please make use of the site search function, as well have a lot of the most common questions covered.
I am Jay By the way and I am a moderators and I am based in the UK, if you need anything please feel free to ask anything in the forum and or send me a PM and I'll be happy tp try and get you the best information I can.
Once again Welcome and thank you for taking the time to contribute.
Jay aka Matrixman
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Ladyjo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/15/2009 : 08:18:35 AM
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Thank you for your comments it is truly appriciated. Ive joined this site purely due to my interests in Hypnotherapy, and to try and gain a little more from other experts. I cannot wait to become qualified, so I can set up my pratice with my trainer (he wants to work with me) which is great for me, as I know that even when qualified I will still have a lot to learn, so I can pick his brains on occasions. Past Life Regression to be honest is a fascinating subject to me, but Im not altogether sure it is real, as I have never had it done to me YET!! maybe in a few more months I can come back and say what I feel! Anyway Looking forward to getting to know everyone Joanne |
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rbtshrink
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2009 : 6:59:03 PM
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I am a Licensed Professional Counselor and have been practicing psychotherapy and hypnotherapy for over 30 years. Even with this experience, I still believe I have an OBLIGATION to my clients to seek out professional consultation or supervision when I am dealing with an issue or disorder that is new to me. I also provide the same service to my colleagues, both those who have been practicing as long as I and especially those new to the profession.
I think Michelle's request for help indicates a professional who cares for and wants the best for her clients. To deny her, or worse, belittle her for asking for these professional courtesies strike me as the TRUE ethical problem...and it does not belong to her. |
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edonmark
United Kingdom
4 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2009 : 06:43:29 AM
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Really I cannot believe this thread. The whole thread has the feel of a secret society trying its hardest to stop anyone joining. Why not just give advice if that's what Michelle is asking for? Aggressive and pompous attitudes just deter people who are new to hypnotherapy, or is this what you guys are trying to do? No doubt you will come back with some pompous reply, all I can say is that there are lots of other sites folks, let these guys fester and go and find a site where genuine people offer genuine advice and will encourage you rather than discourage you. Good luck! P.S. I have no doubt what so ever that if you had offered payment for a script you would have been inundated ! |
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patrickg
USA
724 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2009 : 11:03:59 AM
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The attitude is more around the presumption by some that getting a script is an acceptable replacement for appropriate training. It is not.
The original poster has not used a past life regression process before and believes having a script qualifies her to charge a client for this service. It does not.
If someone has training and requests a script, I very often send them. If someone has no training and offers money, I do not.
rbtshrink - asking for a script is VERY far from seeking out professional consultation.
edonmark - you've countered the pompous attitude with your own. grats. : ) |
Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH www.salemhypnosissolutions.com |
Edited by - patrickg on 06/21/2009 11:07:05 AM |
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edonmark
United Kingdom
4 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2009 : 5:03:00 PM
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As I expected and predicted, justify your behavior by attempting to pass the buck. |
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patrickg
USA
724 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2009 : 5:22:37 PM
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Too cute, edonmark : )
That was my first post in this thread. So by "justify your behavior" I can only assume you are either grouping me in with anyone else you disagree with, or like to argue.
By your marketing it appears you specialize in past life regression. Can anyone pick up a past life regression script and provide a quality client experience with no other preparation?
Why did you not halt your righteous indignation long enough to offer Michelle a script?
What is your motivation here? |
Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH www.salemhypnosissolutions.com |
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edonmark
United Kingdom
4 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2009 : 6:36:35 PM
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Turning this around on me and my opinions is not the issue here. The attitude of persons in this group is the issue however. Im not going to defend or discuss my opinions or my own very successful business I do not feel I need too do that. I am not questioning anyones abilities its the attitude used to deal with a member of the group who needed advice and not humiliating by professional people who should know better. |
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patrickg
USA
724 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2009 : 9:36:27 PM
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This is only your third post here, and all three are aimed at voicing your negative opinion of others without wanting your motivations/opinions questioned.
I'm beginning to think you've had some bad experiences elsewhere that you've brought here.
Otherwise, from what you've shown so far, you fall into the category of 'forum troll'. |
Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH www.salemhypnosissolutions.com |
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