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| CelticsFan |
Posted - 12/21/2007 : 8:11:33 PM
Can somebody grow taller through hypnosis?
If so does anybody know a particular hypnotherapist who does these types of hypnosis sessions? |
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| nispelsm |
Posted - 08/07/2009 : 10:13:13 AM
Deimos, you are talking about bone growth over several years from the use of artificially-inflated hormones, which is not the same as the claim put forth by the "Grow taller with Hypnosis" charlatans.
As was said before, any height increase you see from hypnosis (in the short term claimed) would purely be from improved posture and less stress pulling the spine out of alignment. However, you would not see more than a half-inch of extra height (up to 1 inch if the posture and spinal alignment are more severe).
I know this, because I've suffered from Scoliosis (abonrmal curvature of the spine) since birth. Every year during my physical, the doctors have me do the same thing:
- They measure my height and the curvature of my spine, with me straighening myself as best I can.
- They then have me relax my back muscles through massage and basic stretching exercises for 20 minutes
- They take another set of measurements as before.
Every time, the result is the same. The relaxation and stretching allows my spine to get closer to its correct alignment for a short time, improving my posture and adding about a half-inch of height. The effect only lasts a few hours before the spine settles back into its "normal" alignment.
I am still very new to hypnosis, but I am certain that any increase in height people see from hypnosis sessions is purely a result of releasing muscle tension in their back and neck, allowing their spine to align itself better and improving their posture. |
| Deimos |
Posted - 08/04/2009 : 01:08:18 AM
With the growth rate of bone being what it is, how long do you think it will take to create a meaningful data set that accurately reflects the validity of the concept? Normal skeletal growth during peak growth periods is measured in inches per years and is usually very low. Induced skeletal growth in an adult which has stopped skeletal growth could be expected to get less than that and it would take years of constant effort to get any data which could not be dismissed as a flaw of data collection such as height changes due to posture, time of day, bias, etc.
It's a factor of time and hormone levels. Obviously nothing happens overnight but will happen within the natural limits of the body. Bone growth is slow and takes years and hypnosis to grow bones is going to be slow and take years. It's like how HGH is taken by athletes to increase their muscle size, which grow quickly, while the known effects of HGH to stimulate bone growth are treated as a side effect because the effects of the bone growth on the face after long-term use betray an athlete's illegal use of HGH.
Basically, what I'm saying is that if I wanted to do a study somebody better hook me up with a grant and give me a pretty research assistant because we'd be measuring changes that even at their peak growth rate growth painfully slow. |
| patrickg |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 7:16:58 PM
Plenty of people will say you can grow taller with their hypnosis (or whatever) program. They will then tell you where you can buy their program and how to pay for it. If there was valid data showing their program worked... they would be using it.. they don't cause it don't.
Go experiment and let us know what you find. |
| Matrixman |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 5:55:21 PM
An attack it was not- and as for hostile - you clearly have missed read my intention- my point was and is hypnosis has been practiced by medical men and women for over 50 years- and things like growing taller have been tested, now even today with the advances in NLP, DHE, and NHR Neuro-linguistic programing Design Human Engineering & Neuro-hypnotic re-patterning the most advanced levels of hypnotic applications- we still can't and has of yet found away to change the bone structures- muscles tissue yes- now to have a grown up grow taller we would need to find away to manipulate the bone growth rates- there is way to do this, yet it means braking the bone and creating a gap between the two broken ends- then allowing a fusion process to occur- this is both very painful and very time consuming and is only go for 1.5-2 inches at best- anything more than that could lead to a very weak bonding process and would cause real concerns in later life.
J |
| Deimos |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 5:07:16 PM
Are you one of these medical doctors and have you previously examined and experimented with the concept that I put forth? If so, I would appreciate the notes from your study. If not, I would appreciate that you not engage in such a hostile and clear ad hominem attack on my first post within this forum simply for positing an idea that is logically valid if unproven.
We only expand knowledge by trying. To make unsubstantiated claims about the limits of knowledge in an attempt to discourage one from attempting to test a theory, run an experiment, or otherwise put themselves at risk of learning something which might expand the knowledge of both their and the collective communal knowledge has really got to be the very definition of anti-intellectualism hasn't it? |
| Matrixman |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 3:57:34 PM
You would think that the 30'000 (bare minimum) plus medical doctors who have been trained in hypnosis- would have examined all these possibilities wouldn't you?
J |
| Deimos |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 3:43:28 PM
To grow faster or to induce any form of bodily growth wouldn't you just need to stimulate the production of the appropriate growth hormones? Maybe instead of hypnotizing someone to grow taller you could hypnotize them to develop a hormone profile that could encourage the kind of growth that was desired. Hormone changes can be easy enough in some instances since almost all of our hormones and a lot of the non-hormone chemicals in our brains have distinct signature effects on our thoughts and behavior and they make up entirely our "feelings".
Anyway, I'm just saying that if you wanted to encourage someone to grow taller it would probably be very possible but you'd have to figure out how to stimulate the kind of hormones that you usually only see raging during puberty or other high-growth periods and hope that the growth comes as an effect of you work on them. |
| Matrixman |
Posted - 05/03/2009 : 04:23:17 AM
To grow taller you need to be able to influence the skeleton born structure- at this time we don't have the ability to do that- speeding up the healing of wounds- is a process of speeding up the metabolism- which functions on a very different system in relation to the skeleton. If growing taller was possible with hypnosis- then you would have a lot of very tall people- do a google search- if you find one real grow teller program- (training program)- for professional hypnotist to learn from. (Not CD programs) a live training with a professional hypnosis trainer that can demonstrate at least 7 real living successes - (I will quit being a moderator)
J
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| Larghissimo |
Posted - 05/03/2009 : 03:03:54 AM
I read in a book that is possible to influece the body with hypnosis or suggestability. Hypnotists can cure wounds faster (that is that if you see healing (a form of suggestability) as hypnosis) and of course all the conditions that in fact change the brain of hypnotees.
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| mesmer13 |
Posted - 04/20/2009 : 12:54:51 AM
A certain problem with hypnosis is that if you are doing research or experiments with physical changes you need factual evidence like photographs that you can share with a peer & maybe even that may not work, because (or so I believe) that "reality" is made up of three things [Actual Reality -> the five senses (or less) (the filters) -> the mind (where it's all processed)] and that it is fluid between people. So since hypnosis takes place in the mind you might not be able tell the difference because the mind cannot tell the difference between the suggestion and the information from the senses.
P.S.
The mind controls the gland that releases adrenaline into the blood and some growth disorders are caused by hormones, which come from glands. So I don't think it's a totally hopeless endeavour, but I wouldn't trust any result that didn't come from a thoroughly documented study. |
| ForumMaster |
Posted - 02/16/2009 : 11:49:24 AM
Matrixman,
Kevin was a spammer - his IP address was from UAE and his free Gmail email address did not match his name. He came in to post some lame poorly thought out comments and most importantly to plant links to a equally lame Hypnosis Blog. Moderators removed the links and he has been banned. I am sure he will try again with another name shortly.
Since the HOL web site scores so high in the search engines many people just want to get a link within it to their web site - so they go out of their way to slip them in. In this case the owner of the web site most likely paid someone to plant the links - that is why they have no clue as to what they are talking about.
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| Matrixman |
Posted - 02/16/2009 : 03:42:48 AM
Hi Kevin
I have spent almost 15 years, playing with hypnosis, and growing taller, and the idea of growing taller, was a project I spent some time looking at, over about almost two years, any growth that did happen, was not because, I grow any taller it was because I adjusted my posture- and because of an elongation- of the spine, yet the length of my legs never changed-
Change eye colour is no big deal with hypnosis, and in part comes down to iron levels in the blood, plus your eyes change colour anyway over time-
Hypnosis is very useful yet it does have limitations, that does not mean at some point in time, things wont change, yet we have to function from a reality base.
There are far to many idiots in the filed of hypnosis ripping people off, and there are people who don't have a clue, and who have only read a book or a few articles on hypnosis and think they get it.
Has for mastering all of the Hypnotic arts-- thats "bull****" Sorry admin- yet it needed to be said, and I can prove you wrong- there is a development in Hypnosis called Holomorphosis Design© if you have mastered all of the hypnotic arts who's the developer Holomorphosis Design© and where did you learn it?
Kevin is nice that you hve such a keen belief in hypnosis, yet I would suggest- you get some real live training, from some real live people. |
| kevinrogers |
Posted - 02/15/2009 : 11:39:02 PM
sorry to disagree with all of you but you can grow taller, i've seen it hypnosis allows to do anything you want to do. you just have to believe it, i tried some of it and it does work, for instance i tried for a week to change eye color, and i wanna let you know that it does work it takes time and patience i've seen result in about a week that because i mastered all of the art hypnotize to meditation for i've seen changes where my eyes got lighter, but it didnt stay permanent since i stopped. Anything you wanna achieve is possible through hypnosis and that is my theory, i've seen it work! you just have to believe! |
| mark-gil |
Posted - 11/24/2008 : 3:03:28 PM
Aging makes you shorter. I am two inches shorter and fifty lbs. lighter than I was 20 yrs. ago. |
| mark-gil |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 5:58:23 PM
A little known fact is that each time you consume alcohol, a small percentage of brain cells are killed. Ever wonder why inebriated people act so stupidly. Consider the long range effects as well.
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| andywolf |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 4:59:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CelticsFan
Isn't it possible to grow taller though becuase our body's cells and DNA change and are copied by our brains over and over again? Doesn't our brain program our body on how tall it will be? So shouldn't hypnosis be able to tell the brain how tall you want to be and the brain therefore tell the body to grow?
Good point, and I DO think you are raising it to gtet an answer, not because you are not willing to hear one. The basic flaw in this reasoning is that the body's cells and DNA change and NOT copied by our brains.
2 points to ponder:
1) Cells replicate themselves, with no connection to any brain activity. The body starts growing and replicating from a single cell long before any brain is available. This continues with no intervention of the brain in the replication process.
2) In fact, the only cells that do not replicate after childhood are brain cells. Sad, but true. Brain cells may die - no new cells replace them.
Basically, Hypnosis may cause you to think you are taller, or are still growing. However, no matter how convinced you are of this - this won't change your real height by one iota.
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| mark-gil |
Posted - 12/25/2007 : 6:44:56 PM
Well Done, Matrixman. Exact, to the point and irrefutable. I hope our friend, Celticsfan can accept it! |
| Matrixman |
Posted - 12/25/2007 : 1:55:15 PM
At this time hypnosis is not sophisticated-enough in its applications- to be able to communicate with genetic biochemical interactions- the divide between the two languages- verbal vibrational- and biochemical - are just not compatible- right now we just don't have enough- understanding about the chemical interactions - and how to use language in ways to manipulate- a genetic strain- or for that matter- the specific encoding - strain that governs growth-
You also have to think that if hypnosis was able to make people grow taller- then you bet your life- it would be one of the most talked about aspects in Hypnosis-
J |
| CelticsFan |
Posted - 12/25/2007 : 1:11:23 PM
I am more than willing to hear an answer. I just want to hear somebody who truly knows what they are talking about concerning this topic.
You say "it's no possible", and I say "why not?" |
| HypnoDoc |
Posted - 12/23/2007 : 11:36:00 AM
Why ask the question if you are unwilling to hear the answer?
If you have already decided then feel free to go through the program and post your experiences here. Everyone will be most happy to hear of your results.
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| CelticsFan |
Posted - 12/23/2007 : 10:27:49 AM
Isn't it possible to grow taller though becuase our body's cells and DNA change and are copied by our brains over and over again? Doesn't our brain program our body on how tall it will be? So shouldn't hypnosis be able to tell the brain how tall you want to be and the brain therefore tell the body to grow? |
| mark-gil |
Posted - 12/22/2007 : 3:53:16 PM
I have been a full time practicing hypnotherapist for 54 years.
I have a library of several thousand books and research studies. I have circled the globe five times and taught in ten countries. I have never seen or known of anyone growing taller through the use of hypnosis. There are many con-artists who proclaim that their CDs will increase height, grow a larger penis, increase breast size and grow hair (just to name a few) Desperate, naive and unknowing people send their money and are too embarrased to complain when they realize they have been cheated. Don't be foolish! If it sounds too good to be true,IT IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.
With Respect, Gil Boyne |
| patrickg |
Posted - 12/22/2007 : 11:16:01 AM
You're not going to make a body grow taller via hypnosis. If you find a hypnotist that tells you they'll do this for you? Go ahead and send them money, but save yourself the time and skip the session - it wont do anything for you.
If the height issue is because of poor posture? Hypnosis can help.
Patrick Glancy
www.glancyhypnosis.com |
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